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mchrispen
Bastrop, TX
485 Posts


I just went through two bags of BestMalz Heidelberg Pils. Absolutely loved it - very pale and well modified. I haven't seen a floor malted Best... but really haven't looked for it. I guess I should pull together a short list of continental pils I want to try out.



Posted 34 days ago.

Matt
Charter Member
Normal, IL
341 Posts


Ha mchrispen I was thinking the same thing. I spent so much time testing yeast varieties, I never tested base malts.





Posted 34 days ago.

mchrispen
Bastrop, TX
485 Posts


I know there is a list here on the site, but I think I will share a google spreadsheet. Let people put in their thoughts.





Posted 34 days ago.

mchrispen
Bastrop, TX
485 Posts



It’s a start. Trying to locate Kolbach and WK for Weyermann is going to be a PITA





Posted 34 days ago.

uberg33k
Charter Member
The Internet
314 Posts


I've had problems getting solid information from Weyermann in the past.  They seem to hold this stuff tight to the chest.  I think it's because they charge for malt analysis unless you're buying in big lots or doing a custom kilning.



Posted 34 days ago.

ingoogni
nl
314 Posts


Thomas Fawcett and a few other Britts have a very pale version of Maris Otter (3EBC) malted as Pilsner. Makes very nice Pilsners.

Avantgarde vs. Weyermann, just look at the size differences of the companies. Weyermann is small and a specialty maltser.






Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


Fawcett lists their lager malt as Halcyon variety. http://www.fawcett-maltsters.co.uk/range.htm

The only one that I can find that might be available in the US is Crisp Extra Pale Maris Otter Malt which says is for use in lagers and blonde ales. It is 3-4 EBC and 1.5-1.9 L.
http://www.crispmalt.co/docs/Extra%20Pale%20Maris%20Otter%20Malt.pdf

I would be interested in using that. I wish it was on the sheet when I did the recent grain buy I would have gotten some.




Posted 34 days ago.

ingoogni
nl
314 Posts



Thomas Fawcett No.6 from the top (PDF): www.brouwmarkt.nl/amfilerating/file/d...
Warminster (PDF): www.warminster-malt.co.uk/wp-content/...







Posted 34 days ago.

mchrispen
Bastrop, TX
485 Posts


I guess, if any of you have used those malts in lagers, I would encourage you to add it to the spreadsheet.

It feels a bit weird (in my brain) to use a British varietal and Malt in a lager. But, of course, we use the cheapest 2 row and corn here in the US.





Posted 34 days ago.

ingoogni
nl
314 Posts


The big part of those American 2-row varieties are targeted on lots of enzyme and a certain protein content as the brewers have/had to deal with adjuncts. Just as with Dutch tomatoes, 'taste' is lost on the way.

MO is a little bit older variety, but not really old. There are attempts under way to revive "old" varieties and from what I heard they are "maltier". That is to some extent also what you get from floor malting. It is less controlled and you have a little bit of "breuh" that results in the melanoidins during kilning.

Just for the fun of it, try a lager with 100% of the normal MO or Golden Promise Pale malt, I even made one with Mild malt and liked it a lot, but definitely not a Pilsner.




Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


Weyermann does provide malt analysis for bags of malt now, but it's not easy or obvious.

The bag of Barke Pils I just got has a PDF link written down the side and a barcode that my phone wouldn't scan, so I just typed it manually.

http://www.weyermann.de/pdf_analyses/Q180-001360-01.pdf





Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


BestMalz makes a chit malt with Kolbach index of 32!!!

http://www.bestmalz.de/en/malts/best-chit-malt/

But I'm seeing references that it's supposed to be used the same as dextrin malt, up to 15% of the grist...what gives? Maybe that's assuming you don't decoct?




Posted 34 days ago.

Matt
Charter Member
Normal, IL
341 Posts


Oh man, that's awesome! And I can get it at Chicago Brew Works. I am so willing to invest in this and try to decoct the batch. Anyone have thoughts on this malt? Or used it before?



Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


Oh geez, I dredged up some old thread, didn't I.

Oops. I was looking for the link to the Barke Pils Analysis that I posted and didn't realize I left this thread up.




Posted 34 days ago.

Matt
Charter Member
Normal, IL
341 Posts


Any thread meant to discuss and improve pilsners is worth reviving imo





Posted 34 days ago.

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