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rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


OK, so I have been thinking about this for a while, but we all hate that we really need to handwash our beer glasses to maintain nice head retention. Jet dry is usually the given enemy of head retention: the surfactants left on the glasses is what prevents the head retention. 

The surfactants apparently help water sheet off and not dry on the dishes, but the main ingredient is citric acid - to help neutralize hard, alkaline water presumably. 


So that had me thinking... what about starsan, or more likely, SaniClean, which is apparently the same but without the foam. What if we were to run that in the dishwasher instead of jet dry? Am I insane? Phosphoric acid I would expect to do similar to citirc with regards to hard water (which I have), but is there some other glaring issue with this idea? 

I'd just use it as routine practice, and could load my beer glasses with the rest of the dishes. 

Thoughts?





Posted 34 days ago.

homebrewdad
Charter Member
Birmingham, AL
2480 Posts


I love the idea.  you try it, though.  I don't want my wife smacking me for flooding the kitchen with foam.  Report back how it goes!




Posted 34 days ago.

KidMoxie
Charter Member
San Elijo Hills, CA
405 Posts


I just use vinegar for my rinse aid. Works like a charm and all my glasses are beer-clean.




Posted 34 days ago.

CentralCalBrewer
Fresno, CA
89 Posts


I've never had any lacing/head retention and always run mine through the dishwasher...




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


Isn't vinegar nowhere near strong enough acid to cut the hard water?





Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


>I've never had any lacing/head retention and always run mine through the dishwasher...

Do you use jet dry?

Idk, ive had some issues (mostly from dust or other particulates though, i get all those little bubbles from a fresh glass), but mostly its not too bad.  We havent used anything but bottom shelf dishwasher soap in eons though.




Posted 34 days ago.

CentralCalBrewer
Fresno, CA
89 Posts


We use those dishwasher tablets that include jet dry, and I think there we may use jet dry... I honestly don't know.




Posted 34 days ago.

KidMoxie
Charter Member
San Elijo Hills, CA
405 Posts


> Isn't vinegar nowhere near strong enough acid to cut the hard water?

All I know is that my glasses are spot free and I don't suffer from poor head retention.




Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


I use star san to cut and remove the surfactants or particulate left behind by my dishwasher or hand washing with dawn. I then rinse with water and fill with beer. Works great.

Using sani-clean as the rinse aid in the dishwasher might be a brilliant idea. I think I'm going to try it. Is there any reason not to?




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


My only reason not t, so far, is : I don't have sani-clean right now, only star-san, and no fucking was am I creating that bubbly disaster. 




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


Aw, cmon Ray....that sounds like fun!




Posted 34 days ago.

homebrewdad
Charter Member
Birmingham, AL
2480 Posts


I was hoping somebody would do it.  I wanted to see the pics. 






Posted 34 days ago.

brulosopher
Charter Member
Fresno, CA
167 Posts


Schadenfreude.




Posted 34 days ago.

homebrewdad
Charter Member
Birmingham, AL
2480 Posts


Something something watch the world burn.






Posted 34 days ago.

KidMoxie
Charter Member
San Elijo Hills, CA
405 Posts


I think I'm going to try it. Is there any reason not to?

It might harm the components in your rinse aid compartment that weren't designed to hold such an acidic compound.




Posted 34 days ago.

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