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testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


OK, so I tried my "super fast" brew day today. I went from water on to cleaned up in 4:15. Obviously that includes time collecting and heating water.

This is really fast for me, and I could've been faster if:

1. I didn't have a stuck lauter (twice)

2. I had my water collected ahead of time

3. I didn't space out on my kettle heat setting. It was at 73% the whole time heating water, oops.

4. I didn't have to run around looking for my refractometer

5. I wasn't trying to sort of watch the Falcons game upstairs.

With all those things going right I think I can get it down to 3:30, if not 3.

I mashed 17.81 pounds of grain with 15 gallons of water. It was a bit tight. I could put the lid on my cooler, but it was sitting in the foam on top of the mash.

I also missed my mash temp by a clear mile. Started at 156F, I left the lid off for the whole mash trying to cool it down and it finished around 152F, which was my target.

I'm not sure how long I boiled on account of the running around for a refractometer. Not long I don't think. I got a break, and that's all I was looking for. Did a 20 minute Whirlpool/hop stand with a pound of random hops.

8oz more hops for dry hops.

In retrospect, trying to use visual cues to determine conversion was not the best idea because I was using 2.6 pounds of oats. It was hazy, but I could tell I had most of conversion by 15 minutes. I recirced and lautered at 30m. I stirred the mash a lot.

Overall, I like this sort of brew day. Got a little lower efficiency, but who cares. I think I'll try this sort of thing for any session ale I brew in the future.

Does anyone use a grant on their mash tun? I'm thinking about trying to retrofit my HopRocket into a grant to prevent grain bed compaction and stuck lauter.





Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


Forgot pic of mash tun slap full.





Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


I'm looking forward to doing some double-5g batches ala marshmallow soon, and look forward to full volume mashing like you did. I never attempted full volume on 11g batch. That's hairy even in a 70qt cooler - and I'm usually mashing more like 20-30lbs of grain. Even as close as you got it looks nerveracking.

4:15/pretty good though...I suspect I hear a bit faster than you do (gas), and my normal undrunk brewday is like 430-445. I think 4h is a reasonable goal now that I finally got a rolling chest of drawers for my mash tuns to rest atop. Reorganization was fun today. Everything has a place and setup should be super fast. Just need to empty fermenters now and I can try it all out.





Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


I really want a 15 gal kettle so i can do 10 gal batches :(

Ill need a new burner, though. Im using an old turkey burner that has a stupid fucking ring around it so some moronic neckbeard cant knock a kettle full of oil off of it or something, which means that anything over a 10 gal kettle wont fit on it.

Should make my brother make me one.




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


DUDE... KAB4... seriously. it is SILIENT (interestingly, it is quieter when on full blast than when turned down a bit) and you can hook it to Natural Gas. BEST BURNER.

Okay, second best. Blichmann has a better stand. Same burner tho.




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


I wish i could hook up a natural gas burner in the basement. No ventilation, though :(




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


you could still use it wherever you're using a turkey fryer now.




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


I just mean for natural gas. That would be so much easier for me. We have a stove in the basement, it'd be so nice if i had a way to run a burner down there that was strong enough for a boil (2 burners on the stove is good enough to get to a reasonable boil, but it takes a while).

It'd be so nice in the winter, too. Free heat/humidity for the house.





Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


I don't mean to be a smartass here, but if you already have a stove down there... what is the ventilation now for the exhaust and steam?




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


Its not steam or CO2 im concerned about. It has some leakyness for that, and overall the steam rises enough to not make it a mildewy mess or anything like that.

I'd be more concerned about if i didnt have the burner going right and natural gas built up.




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


You're not concerned with that on your stove also?I fail to see how the two are meaningfully different.




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


I dunno. Im not saying the logic isnt flawed, but weve had a stove down there for eons and have used it a million times without issues.

Running a high BTU burner just seems different for some reason.




Posted 34 days ago.

rayfound
Charter Member
Riverside, CA
313 Posts


Okay. If you could put a box fan in a window or something, I think it is reasonably safe.

That being said, from a CYA standpoint: I do not suggest using any product outside of its designed application.




Posted 34 days ago.

Necropaw
Charter Member
Central WI
608 Posts


The windows down there are pretty hard to do stuff like that with. The basement ceiling is only about 2' above ground level, and the windows dont really open super far.


If i were going to be living here for a long period of time, i'd consider converting one of the windows to an exhaust hood and actually put in a decent basement brewery (along with a large laundry style sink), but my mom is planning on moving, and frankly i want to live closer to work, so at some point i need to get my own house or something.

Just need to find the money to do that...riiiiight.




Posted 34 days ago.

testingapril
Charter Member
Atlanta, GA
595 Posts


Ray, I didn't get mashed in until 1:30 due to my heating issues and collecting water. If I had my water collected that would save a lot of time. If I can figure out how to automagically heat my strike water, then I could mash in at 0:15 instead of 1:30, saving HUGE time. With that, I could probably get under 3 hours.

And yeah, mashing that much water was perilous. I had numerous splash-overs while stirring, but it was manageable. With all that water, and a comically large whisk, there is basically zero risk of dough balls.

Now I'm just trying to think of other beers I could do like this. This was a 1.042 beer, so that's literally the top end of what I can do with a full volume mash and still get 10 gals.

Although, I wonder what I could do if I just took an efficiency hit and increased the grain and used top up water...alternately I could cold sparge.




Posted 34 days ago.

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